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Old 07-30-2009, 03:33 PM
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Cash For Clunkers: Dealers Having Trouble Getting Paid

Is it a shock to anyone that the dealers who are the ones forced to impliment the new government "cash for clunkers" givaway are having trouble getting the deals done? And the government wants to take over our health care? WOW.

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Getting the federal money promised to dealers who have sold consumers discounted new vehicles in exchange for gas-guzzling trade-ins is proving difficult, dealers say.

Under the program, consumers can trade-in certain guzzlers for new ones with better fuel economy in exchange for $3,500 to $4,500 in federal vouchers. But that money comes in federal reimbursements to dealers, who discount new vehicles in qualifying deals and then must apply for the funds online. And some say until they figure out the Web-based system, they have thousands of dollars unaccounted for.

Jerry Golinvaux, a Chrysler-Jeep-Dodge dealer in Roseville, Minn., said Wednesday afternoon he had submitted 35 deals so far and hadn't been notified that any of them have been approved.

"We've received two rejection notifications back, and the notifications don't give any indication of why" they were rejected, he said.

Applying online for each reimbursement takes "a minimum of 25 minutes," he said. And he hasn't had much luck getting help from the federal hotline, 866-227-7891.

"You get hold of somebody after waiting an hour and a half, and that person doesn't know the answer," Golinvaux said. "So they transfer you to somebody else. They transfer to somebody else, and then you get a dial tone."

Rae Tyson, a spokesman for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, said NHTSA staffers investigating hotline complaints did not have trouble getting through on the hotline.

"There may be a wait, but we have significantly increased the staff for the hotline, so I reject any complaints about that," he said earlier this week.

He said Wednesday afternoon he was not aware of any hotline problems, although he had not tried to call that day. And NHTSA said this morning in a statement that 56,430 calls got through on its hotline on Tuesday, its most recent day of data.

But an Automotive News reporter who called the hotline multiple times Wednesday progressed through a series of four menus that twice informed callers of high-call volume, even saying "you may be unable to get through" to talk with someone about problems with the government's online system.

In the final menu, the reporter selected an option for a dealer to speak with an agent about submitting a voucher reimbursement request. Each time, the reporter received a busy signal after selecting that option.

Dealers also have complained that the cash-for-guzzlers Web site times out every 120 seconds while they're trying to file a voucher application. That's a security feature, Tyson said, and dealers need only hit any key to keep the window active.

Full Story: http://www.autonews.com/article/2009...907309976/1078
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Old 07-30-2009, 06:19 PM
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A government program is going to good for business, has to be shut down now

WASHINGTON (AP) - Congressional officials say the government plans to suspend the popular "cash for clunkers" program amid concerns it could quickly use up the $1 billion in rebates for new car purchases.

The Transportation Department called congressional offices late Thursday to alert them to the decision to halt the program, which offered owners of old cars and trucks $3,500 or $4,500 toward a new, more fuel-efficient vehicle.

The congressional officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

Through late Wednesday, 22,782 vehicles had been purchased through the program and nearly $96 million had been spent. But dealers raised concerns of large backlogs in the system, prompting the suspension.
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I don't even want to hear the words "Cash For Clunkers" again. At a dealer level, it is a complete nightmare. The risks involved are HUGE, and the paperwork pile for each deal is amazing. You can tell that at NO time did they consult with dealers to see if the transaction process made any sense, logistically. Why the NADA allowed this program to go forward in this fashion is beyond me.

The good (bad) news is my lot is empty. Sold everything in two weeks. Now we just have to hope we dotted all our "I"s, and crossed our "T"s... Twice.
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Old 08-03-2009, 02:25 PM
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Pain in the a$$ aside, it is good to have the sales boost. If there is one way the government stimulus money has been spent that has actually made a dent in kicking the economy it is this one.
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